aLeX
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Post by aLeX on Jan 31, 2005 20:25:43 GMT -5
its not too hard but its not to easy its on the medium ok
"if all of our days and his plans for us are written in his book would part of his plan be to get us hurt and do u reckon the time wen we werent christians was apart of his plan to,if not give ur reasons why..."
if u dont know be honest i respect honesty more than a pretend i do know thing:-/. i'll have the answer right after this break!
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Post by mullerations on Jan 31, 2005 21:47:23 GMT -5
ummm if we never get hurt how do we learn
.. what doesnt kill you only makes you stronger....
remember that episode from the simpsons wen lisa was
doin a survey with the hampster and bart.... well the
cheese that was infront of the hampster was connected
to some shockin thingo.... the hampster touched it, it
got electrecuted and after that it never touched it again.
so yeh we learn from our mistakes..... imagine we were
like robots.. we would be programed to do everything
perfectly... where is the love??? where is the want
to be doing such....
well ionno if im right.... but this is what i gta say..
i love you alex ;D
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bentotz
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Post by bentotz on Feb 2, 2005 9:24:15 GMT -5
yeh!
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Post by =mAy aNnE= on Feb 2, 2005 19:28:48 GMT -5
"God tests our faith so that we may trust His faithfulness"
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Post by [J][A][M][E][S] on Feb 2, 2005 19:44:14 GMT -5
I'll just reiterate what Jesse Duplantis said in one of his preaching, and i think he made an excellent point.
"....Christ does not destroy or interfere with human will. By words man is lured to his destruction and by words man is lured to his salvation. The greatest gift that God has given to man kind is freewill=> all He want is for your will to come in allignment with His" The Holy Spirit will convict you of things but its up to us-humans to follow or disregard it. He'll protect your right to go to heaven and He'll protect your right to go to hell.
Anyone thinks similarly??
James
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LILcat
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Post by LILcat on Feb 2, 2005 19:53:28 GMT -5
WoW! Great answers guyZ!!!!!!! DATZ SOOOO KEWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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bentotz
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Post by bentotz on Feb 2, 2005 22:09:14 GMT -5
thnx!!  |
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Post by ..:: ¢}{î£ø ::.. on Feb 2, 2005 22:30:20 GMT -5
ummm if we never get hurt how do we learn
.. what doesnt kill you only makes you stronger....
remember that episode from the simpsons wen lisa was
doin a survey with the hampster and bart.... well the
cheese that was infront of the hampster was connected
to some shockin thingo.... the hampster touched it, it
got electrecuted and after that it never touched it again.
so yeh we learn from our mistakes yeh.. thats true muller.. but on the otherhand.. bart, the human subject, kept coming back for it and kept gettin electricuted if i rmemba correctly... he didnt learn from his mistakes.. good answer neverthe less. |
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Post by sauce on Feb 3, 2005 0:21:32 GMT -5
nice
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Post by mullerations on Feb 3, 2005 1:01:32 GMT -5
THIS ISNT ABOUT BART!!!!....haha...
well just goes to show if we dont learn God will
keep teaching us until we learn.... ;D
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Post by R-E-F-L-E-C-T-O-R on Feb 3, 2005 1:51:07 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] OK ANYONE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG...
im gona refer to the story about the tapestry...
if u look at tapestries... look at the bak its full of knots and string is everywher... to be honest it looks yuk and chaotic... this represents our life..we've all gone thru some crap and chaos in our lives... and if u look bak on it.. it does look chaotic...
but if you turn it around.. you see something awesome and beautiful... again this is lyk our life... God uses everything, even all the ones that you think r bad moments to make something beautiful of u...
so to anser the question... i dont think it was in god's plan to leave us not believing in christ for that long because i know for a fact that God's plan is never for us to give in to the darkness.... yah know we choose to get hurt wid da things that we do, the actions that we take... God doesnt pour pain and suffering on us... its there... its up to us to choose wether to live in the light or the darkness...however... even with these moments that we giv in to sin... insted of dwelling on it.. God uses that and turns it around to make something beautiful...
like i heard from a preacher b4 that our greatest ministry is the one wer we reach to those who hav made the same mistakes as us in the past. thats something beautiful..ryt?!? [/glow]
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Post by ..:: ¢}{î£ø ::.. on Feb 3, 2005 8:13:48 GMT -5
ooerrz.. i like that answer don.. w00t w00t!!
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aLeX
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Post by aLeX on Feb 4, 2005 8:16:47 GMT -5
WOW.... dats really...amazing!good stuff lads alot of wat use sed was tru,god doesnt plan for us to get hurt or be away frm him or even to go through test and trial.cause at the beginning god juz wanted to live in perfect harmony with his ppl until the fall.and its not that it was his plan,for the fall,but its juz that gods got a better mind than the devil.wen the devil creates mess he creates the message,god doesnt bring the storm he brings u through it.(u can be unfaithful but he cant,cause he cant be false to himself)see its not his plan for us,to stuff up or fall,but god uses bad for good.he's juz got a greater mind than the devil.see even though its not his plan for us to fall,he can still use dat for us to fall back into a greater plan.see the devil thinks he can stuff us up by falling,but wen u've fallen out of the flock god makes stepping stones out of ur stumbling blocks. proudly brought to you by jesus is the answer ministries!
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Post by arsonist on Feb 4, 2005 21:11:25 GMT -5
yeah i definitely agree with u lex.
It's not in God's plan for us to get hurt... like it was never in his plans for us to have problems... His original plan for Adam and Eve was to live a full life. it was sin that brought in pain, suffering, and other chaotic things happening in the world now.... But God is too gracious to allow us to go through that stuff alone... that's why he made a redemption plan called JESUS -> we have a choice to do it our way or God-way. Just remeber guyz that God is good... and if He is good, then how can anything bad come from Him? only good and perfect gifts come from God... so don't ever think God made you sick to learn a valuable lesson... since when did sickness or hurt for that matter become a good and perfect gift? but He ALLOWS those things to happen so that we may grow in our character and to test our endurance. So whenever you're going through hurt stop blaming God-and start looking to Him for answers..
Jeremiah 29:11
"For i know the plans i have for you, plans to PROSPER you, NOT TO HARM YOU(so no it is not in God's plan for us to get hurt), plans to give you a HOPE and a FUTURE"
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Post by BEAUTY on Feb 15, 2005 0:34:53 GMT -5
well ALEX.. NO GOd doesnt want to hurt us.. he doesnt even give it to us... watever we experience is GOD GIVEN or GOD USED! ryt.., and all of the things that we think GOD is testing us like sickness, poverty, or anything horrible that happened is not from GOD but all of thoise things GOD used! ryt!?!
----->he never meant us to be harmed it says in jeremiah 29:11"...not to harm us....."
----->GOD never wants us to be poor because he said in his words that he wants us to PROSPER
----->he absolutely didnt send us SICKNESS..because he wants to HEAL us!
but every choices that we make carries consequences and GOD would want to correct us! to give peaceable amount of righteousness....
so wen GOD disciplines us he loves us..
like a daddy that will discipline a child! ohh i love GOD...
GOD loves you unconditionally!
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